While it sucks from our point of view as fans that these three are gone, it is ultimately their life and not ours. While I don't necessarily think an extra year in school wouldn't have benefitted them, I also don't think they will be as unsuccessful as this committee is saying they'll be. Watching a lot of Skins games, I see Ford as good enough to be in Jamison Crowder's position at the next level. Crowder operates more in the slot i think. Ford doesn't have that speed to do that apparently.
I'm a Redskins fan as well. I see him more as a Pierre Garon type on the outside. Reliable hands, good route runner, good enough speed. The committee tells everyone not projected as a Round 1 or 2 pick to come back. So no surprise there. I thought that was common knowledge. The draft grade for people leaving early is 1, 2, stay in school, right?
They might be thinking about all the increased Cam catches towards the end of the season because they were double covering Ford. Ford's productivity dropped off some as the season went on. Nicked up plus additional attention? I personally think the vocal scouts, talent evaluators, and so called draft experts are a bunch of hacks that like to hear their own voice half the time.
The people whose opinion really matter know its not in their best interest to speak out about it. Leaks that do get out are self serving or meant as some kind of leverage tactic. I guess we will know for sure in about a week. Back to this scout attacking the school for exaggerating Ford's 40 time. It is quite possible Ford did run a lower time prior to packing on that last minute muscle.
Also any scout that thinks that difference in 40 time is going to make or break the success of a wide receiver isn't much of an evaluator if you ask me. Let's face it VT has been known for exaggerating times, just like Florida was when Urban Meyer had basically a whole 22 man team running sub 4.
I personally take anytime I see from VT and add. I clocked Marcus Vick at a 4. It was a fast time, but not that fast. Was that with or without police pursuit? That could mean the difference of a couple hundredths of a second. That's why MV7 ran a 4. How much of this is "hot air" and how much of it is intentional deflection? If you have guys that you think are valuable, it is in your interest for the other teams to think they're less valuable.
This is extremely harsh. A scout should also know better than to think someone is going to drastically improve their 40 time this far along in their career. You can shave hundredths with technique and form, maybe even a tenth if you really tighten it down. But at this point in Isaiah's career he knows how to run a 40 and he probably was not going to be any faster if he came back a year, that's asinine. I really think that he was talking about how the production from both Ford and Evans could have gone up in another year in Fuentes offense, and because of that they would both have higher grades.
I don't think that he thinks Ford is going to get faster over the next year. Also I wish we wouldn't inflate times. It really is a turn off to everyone but the home team fan base. Maybe the school did a disservice by not trying harder to get them to stay since we haven't been pumping out many pro players in recent years.
Getting some descent profile kids in the League would certainly help recruiting. I still disagree that Ford had much to gain from coming back. He had back to back yard seasons. If he comes back next year he maybe has ? It looks a little better but he is already a very talented route runner and he isn't going to get faster. We VT would benefit from him coming back way more than he would. I just don't see how coming back would have made a significant impact on his stock at all.
As much as I would have loved to see Ford come back for his senior season. If he has graduated, he really doesn't have a great season to stick around other than loving the location, school, teammates, and maybe trying to be the first three time 1, yard receiver in school history. I think all three would have benefitted greatly by staying another year in CJF's offense, especially Evans. While I know we have historically exaggerated 40 times, where did he see anything about Ford running a 4.
I was under the impression that as freshman both Ford and Phillips had 4. Any decent scout should have known what they were getting with Ford for a couple years now. This guy will eat shit. Ford is going in Round 2, Hodges will also. Evans as we all know should have stayed a year, but he'll be somewhere around a 6th rounder.
Look, I also believe Ford is being undervalued, but many on here were saying Kendall Fuller still had a 1st round chance last year after his injury, and he dropped all the way towards the end of the 3rd round. People also said Logan Thomas should have been a 2nd round at worst pick, and dropped to the 4th. We have a tendency to think our players are better than the NFL thinks they are coming out of college. Kendall Fuller is a bad example.
He was a victim of the injury collusion NFL teams do to pay them less this happens both with injuries and character issues despite getting all positive reports from medical personnel regarding his injury.
NFL teams are intentionally passing on players they think are talented to uphold some conspiracy? That made it sound like a huge conspiracy but in reality this happens too consistently to not be a thing.
They all collectively save money and it's less risky. It happens with talented players with character concerns as well.
There was never any doubt those guys would be NFL starters. I am usually very against "conspiracy" driven narratives, but given the NFL owners and managers handling of pretty much every money related issue with players, this is well within the range of being feasible. Yeah, but, what do they gain from letting him fall out of the draft? If a team thought a player was worth a 7th round pick they'd spend a 7th round pick on him. There is absolutely no reason for a team to wait on that guy if he's the most valuable player in their opinion left on the board, if their goal is signing him to a rookie-minimum contract.
A conspiracy? The player with the most Super Bowl rings ever? With the league cracking down on character issues like never before, plus the uncertainty regarding these players effect on your locker room, plus the uncertainty of college talent translating into the NFL despite your assertion to the contrary , obviously teams were scared off and used their picks elsewhere.
The conspiracy angle is ridiculous. Also, I'm not really trying to perpetuate a major conspiracy here, I opened that door up on accident and I could not care less if you think it's ridiculous. I personally do not hold a high opinion of NFL ownership and management, particularly as it pertains to player rights, well being, and how little voice the NFLPA actually has.
There are hundreds, thousands of fast, strong guys out there every year. Will they make it in the NFL? That's where all the other factors come in and guesswork begins? Can you work hard, harder than you've ever worked before? Can you watch film? Are you dedicated? Can you get along with others? On and on. Talent is one of many factors. I might be missing a key factor but how are they saving money by doing this? They still have to use the picks and therefore pay other players a pretty standard amount of money, no?
Burflict and Blount had reputations for off-field issues even in college, with Blount getting cold-cocked after the Boise State game by another punk, so that had to play into why their draft stock dropped. Still surprised it fell to the point of being undrafted, but character matters to the NFL, or at least that's what they want us to think. Right on the button. He shouldn't have hit him, but the Boise dude was in his face taunting him right before he hit him. I always assumed the Boise player said something pretty bad because everyone reacts to what he said.
Any trash talk before or during the game is to get in someone's head. Any trash talk after the game is to get in someone's face. He got exactly what he was looking for. Good follow through. My recollection is that they were walking past each other across the field after the game and he had at least feet to line it up, and Boise didn't see it coming at all.
People said that about Logan after his sophomore year. Nobody thought that when he ended up going pro. I'm saying that about Ford because most other scouts are saying that. This guy is the first to knock Ford at all about coming out of school early. Pretty sure all of us who are high on Ford aren't just drinking Kool Aid. I know why Bucky went pro, he wants the money. But going after only 1 year as a split out wide receiver is going to cost him. His outside blocking, route running, and catching on the run could only have improved with a second year lined up outside.
To the teams looking at him as a WR, he has only one year of production as a WR with so so blocking, route running, and catching on the run. To the teams looking at him as a TE, he has a couple of years of okay production as a TE with so so blocking, and not much else in an offense that didn't hit the QB as much as it should have. I'm not sure what Ford could do in his senior year to improve his draft stock. He's not going to run a 4.
He'd probably be a 3rd round pick in the draft only he'd be out a year's worth of money. Similar to the reasons I thought Dadi should have left after his Junior season. He wasn't going to get bigger and he was still going to have to transition to a OLB, even with another year playing at VT at end, of course.
Yes, he wasn't likely to get faster or develop better body control. But, as I've said here before, he was a true Jr. And he certainly could have made some improvements in his route running and, in particular, his yards after catch which goes back to being more physically mature. Ford has neither the extraordinary speed nor size that NFL teams want. On paper, Ford should have stayed. He already runs routes well. Any improvements there would be marginal.
He'd never have the height and speed to be a 1st round pick. NFL teams draft on potential as much as they do college production. If he waited a year he'd be pushed down by the crop of juniors that will come out next year. Plus there's the time value of money- even if he earns more by waiting a year, he never gets the money back he could have earned. He's a good route runner, but not a great one. There was certainly room for improvement.
Player B is Ford. Player A is John Ross. Ford was more productive in college and is more polished but Ross is going to be a first round pick because Ross has what NFL teams want- ludicrous speed.
Ford's college numbers were better than Mike Williams's numbers but Williams is likely a first round pick because he's bigger and that's what NFL teams want. Ford's lack of physical gifts put a hard ceiling on where he would go. NFL teams aren't that concerned about route running or blocking because those are teachable things, and they've shown an arrogance about being able to teach those things.
If Ford stuck around for another year he'd still have the same weaknesses and would still end up a 3rd round prospect behind guys who can run 4. Ford has played in more than 29 games for those stats Your point still stands the NFL is about certain skill sets moreso than production in college. I can't speak for John Ross, but I doubt he was counted on as a true freshmen to carry the load at WR due to poor depth as well. That was a math error on my part because I stink at math.
Ford has played in 39 games, Ross I should never add things on my own without a calculator. It's not just Fords measurables. He had very few wow plays. Fans wanted to say he was better than Tyler Boyd at Pitt who despite similar measurables was a Highlite tape who did everything. Boyd was All American wit same measurables but was 1st round type who fell to 2nd because of a DUI gping into his final year. Ford is a great talent and even better kid but not round 1 or 2 guy. I think 4th is where he will fall.
I can't hear Ford and Pitt in the same sentence without thinking of this:. You mean when the defender was holding down his right hand while going up for the ball? That's textbook pass interference if I've ever seen it I agree, and that scout's prognostication into when they will be drafted is probably spot on, with both Hodges and Ford being lucky to get selected before the start of Round 4, and Evans being probably a 6th or 7th Round pick, at best. Interestingly only 2 of the top 10 leaders in receiving yards last year were 6'3 and above Mike Evans and Julio Jones.
Most were hovering around 6' lb. I don't put much stock in what McShay or Kiper say, but I think the NFL scouts are typically pretty accurate; this is their job, and their salary depends on it. There's also the counter argument that suggests that scouts who are infatuated with measurables ending looking stupid a lot.
Exhibit A: JaMarcus Russell. Remember, Jerry Rice ran a 4. For what its worth, this guy doesn't put as much stock into stats. He uses them as part of the formula. Counter: Yeah but you used two examples of guys not panning out to support your point. That's not a good P-sample at all. So if Ford came back, he would likely not drastically improve his 40 time, which seems to be the biggest knock; would likely not see a big improvement on his numbers, having a very good Ankle Assassin on the field with him, a new QB although that was not known when he declared, at least not known to us, Ford may have known , and he would have been facing double coverage the entire season; and on top of that a whole additional season of risking significant injury Ok let's say they all come back.
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And, maybe they are. Perhaps moderate Muslims do not condone the murderous ways of the Islamic extremists. But, when was the last time a Hindu, Jew, or Christian strapped a bomb to himself with the sole purpose of killing anyone who disagreed with his religion? Where is the Muslim renunciation of these acts? Where is their outrage? And, although some Muslims may not condone the actions of the Islamic extremists, many of the 1. Could it be that the more moderate and westernized Muslims are silent because they recognize the terrorists are behaving in conjunction with the teachings of the Koran and Islamic scholars?
Could it be that Muslims, radical or otherwise, realize that Islam plans to rule the world? That in obedience to Mohammed and the Koran it has no choice? Today, Europe is more noticeably a world of headscarves and burkas. According to the Koran, their goal of world dominance will not stop there. Moderate Muslims are as duty bound to obey the Koran as the Islamic extremists are.
The goal of Islam is to rule the entire world and submit all of mankind to the faith of Islam. Any nation or power that gets in the way of that goal, Islam will fight and destroy.
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